MN Statute 147E registers naturopathic doctors effective July 2009 and mandates a work group to recommend measures to ensure MN Statute 146A effectively protects unlicensed healers and, also, to study naturopathic regulation laws in other states. All opinions welcome. In the spirit of the work group, where the unregulated and regulated healers concerns will find an equitable solution, we hope this blog will engender a friendly and meaningful conversation.

Sunday, May 18, 2008

2005 MMA (Minnesota Medical Association) Report lists objections to licensing naturopathic medicine

Naturopathic Physician Licensing Proposal
The committee considered a proposal to establish licensure for naturopathic physicians. Efforts
by naturopaths to obtain state licensure date back to at least 1997. At that time, legislation was
introduced, but it failed to pass because of opposition primarily from the “lay naturopath”
community, many of whom would have been restricted from practice due to the legislation’s
education and training standards. In 2000, renewed interest in establishing some level of state
oversight of “complementary and alternative medicine” (CAM) led to the passage of the
complementary and alternative health care practices act (M.S. § 146A).
The proposed legislation would charge the Board of Medical Practice (BMP) with licensing
responsibilities for “naturopathic physicians.” A “naturopathic physician” (abbreviated as either
ND or NMD) would be defined as one who is authorized and licensed to practice naturopathic
medicine, which is defined as follows:
“A system of primary health care practiced by naturopathic physicians for the prevention,
diagnosis, and treatment of human health conditions, injuries, and diseases that uses education,
lifestyle counseling, nutrition, naturopathic obstetrics, naturopathic physical medicine, natural
derived medicines, minor surgery, and pharmaceutical agents.” (Section 1 of 147E.01 – draft
legislation).
Committee members reviewed the specifics of the legislation and the proposed scope of practice
under the legislation, and discussed the proposal with representatives from the naturopathic
community.
The committee acknowledged that licensure and its concomitant educational and training
standards might offer some protection to the public by distinguishing more formally trained
naturopaths from “lay” or untrained naturopaths. Licensure, however, also carries with it
perceived state “endorsement” of the practice. The significant expansion in the scope of practice
for licensed naturopaths was a noted and significant concern.
Ultimately, the committee concluded (and the Board agreed) that the MMA should oppose the
naturopathic licensure proposal because of five (5) primary concerns:
1. The proposed scope of practice for licensed naturopaths is a significant expansion and an
infringement on many of the central components of the practice of medicine.
2. The committee failed to see how the licensure proposal would protect the public.
3. Citing increased pressure on physicians to deliver reliable care and reduce variation in
practice, committee members were disappointed to hear representatives from the Minnesota
Association of Naturopathic Physicians assert the unique and individualized nature of
naturopathy and, essentially, to dismiss suggestions for standardization.
4. The committee found the proposed use of the term “naturopathic physician” and the
abbreviation “ND or NMD” to be both inappropriate and confusing to the public.
5. Noting concerns with rising health care costs and the push for greater “evidence-based”
health care, the committee was concerned that licensure (and the admitted desire for thirdparty
reimbursement) would put pressure on limited health care dollars at the possible
expense of more critical health care services.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I are objectefeyng to these centinmentalitis. I are a doctorate of bio-quantum physicalities and this is totally bogus!

Wolfgang said...

Dear IDD,

Ummm. I speak for everyone who reads the above posting.

WTF are you talking about?

Wolfgang said...

Hey, Let's look at this BS.

1. The proposed scope of practice for licensed naturopaths is a significant expansion and an
infringement on many of the central components of the practice of medicine.

... and that has what to do with the current legislation? Yup. Nothing.

2. The committee failed to see how the licensure proposal would protect the public.

... but they do now. See other postings here about the death in CO. And yes, I made sure they got the info.

3. Citing increased pressure on physicians to deliver reliable care and reduce variation in
practice, committee members were disappointed to hear representatives from the Minnesota
Association of Naturopathic Physicians assert the unique and individualized nature of
naturopathy and, essentially, to dismiss suggestions for standardization.

... So whoever posted this is looking for all types of care to be standardized? Really? Heck even the MMA and board of licensing realize that integration is more important that Big Pharma's push for "standardized" prescriptions. Of course drugs have an important place, but so do other less invasive therapies.

4. The committee found the proposed use of the term “naturopathic physician” and the
abbreviation “ND or NMD” to be both inappropriate and confusing to the public.

... because as soon as the medical ND schools came up with NMD to alleviate the confusion they immediately moved to offer that degree name. The diploma mills count on the publics confusion. They BANK on it.

5. Noting concerns with rising health care costs and the push for greater “evidence-based”
health care, the committee was concerned that licensure (and the admitted desire for thirdparty
reimbursement) would put pressure on limited health care dollars at the possible
expense of more critical health care services.

... and this will not change until we get single payer in and private insurance out. It is also based on the mistaken idea that there is not enough to go around. There is always room for another GOOD doctor. It's the hacks we can't afford.

Anonymous said...

this fantasy of single payer system is subversive. Q: where does grandpa smurph (i mean dean) live? A: La La land. what exactly are the supposed benefits of making all the doctors employees of the government?

Anonymous said...

There is no "agenda" to posting a historical document (2005) which lists the concerns the MMA had
regarding licensing naturopaths.
It would serve best to understand these concerns, as I am sure they remain, and addressed them in an intelligent, reasonable manner to satisfy MDs.
For example, comment 3, if naturopaths are to be primary care providers, they'd better KNOW what the standardized treatments are.
For example, if someone has high blood pressure, they must know what are the current standard protocols. The answer that 'everyone is unique' was really off the mark, and concerned the MMA.

Anonymous said...

Dear Corine,

Thank you for pointing out the flawed reasoning in Wolgang's comment. I reacted more strongly to the notion of pushing single payer system, but I think your comment is central to the concern MD's feel towards naturopathic practice. When their prescribed therapy ignores tested and validated forms of treatment, the patients are often denied effective therapy and their disease progresses. If naturopaths, really want to serve their patients well, they need to learn about effective therapy. They are welcome to test out their alternatives, but should only do so with full disclosure and after obtaining an informed consent from their study population.

Wolfgang said...

Ok,

So I was shooting from the hip so let's look at things and then respond in kinder to Bones and Corrine.

First of all, bones, a single payer system does not necessarily mean that the docs, nurses etc are working for the government. In fact there is only one industrialized nation which does that, England, and only one that doesn't use this efficient and effective system of paying for medical care, US.

The fact is that the average[meaning that half of the bookies, errrrrrr, insurance companies charge more than 27% to overhead and administrative costs] overhead for private insurance is 27%. In single payer that highest amount charged to overhead [i.e. not spent on patients or caregivers] is 6%.

Another fact is that the US spends more than any other nation per capita per year on health care, about $7200 at last count. The next closest is Canada which spends $3600. So we already pay for universal care, we just don't get it.

Now about Standard of care. It is laudable and the ND's looking to be registered are trained in standards of care [don't believe me check out their training at any of their Princeton Review listed top medical schools in the US].

The point I was trying to make, and apparently very badly [sorry about that - sometimes my tongue trips up my head] was that given that every patient is unique that every treatment should also be unique to that patient. Current advances in genetic therapies are a good example of this on the allopathic side of the fence. I hope this clears up any confusion I created.

The problem I have with standards of care [which were developed originally to make it easier to bill insurance companies [yes, virginia, they have been a pain in the ass for decades] is that many of the therapies in it have not been adequately tested. Oncological agents are especially troubling as there have been no "gold standard" studies for these. It is essentially medical experimentation for many types of cancers.

I think there a plenty of glass houses abounding here. Perhaps I should take the advice I am about to dispense and stop throwing rocks.

I look forward to your responses.

Wolfgang

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